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BPLM Pro-Choice Protest 5 by MetalShadowOverlord BPLM Pro-Choice Protest 5 by MetalShadowOverlord
Pro-choice protesters at the Boston Massachusetts March For Life.
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wolfplanet102 Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2011  Student General Artist
I hate when someone's says 'I'm pro-life, but if a women gets raped, I think she should have an abortion.' You cannot be pro-life and say that. Also, being raped and becoming pregnant is 1 in a 5million chance. I know that it's possible, but, she'll go through more pain.
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MetalShadowOverlord Featured By Owner Mar 7, 2011
The people who use rape as a means of excusing abortion usually exaggerate it. The most current studies (Or, at least, the ones I've found, which go up to 2008) have shown that rape victims account for less than 2% of abortions while 74% of abortions are done because the baby would be inconvenient. Go figure?
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wolfplanet102 Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2011  Student General Artist
The one in the middle should say: Life=freedom.
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MetalShadowOverlord Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2011
Well, they're obsessed with being pro-abor....I mean, pro-choice. If having a choice equates to freedom, then I'm simply expressing my freedom of choice to not be pro-abor...pro-choice. Man, I gotta watch those Freudian slips. I'll get into trouble one of these days if I done.
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Kell0x Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010  Student General Artist
Wow you really think sex education is a bad idea? 0_o sorry to say but you do know in places where they teach ABSTINENCE there are more unwanted pregnancies then in places where they teach sex education right? Just saying
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MetalShadowOverlord Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010
Wait, what? Um, I only...took the picture. ._.;
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Kell0x Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010  Student General Artist
You agreed with a someone who commented here that Sex education is wrong and only abstinence should be taught. :)

You want to know why here were so many underground secret abortions in the 50's ? because girls were told they wouldn't get pregnant if they did it for the first time or if they had sex under water. Sex education had proven to show lower teenager unwanted pregnancies plus it also really helps people about the dangers of std's. :nod:
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MetalShadowOverlord Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010
Oh, that's it. I thought...nevermind. Now that we have that cleared up...

"because girls were told they wouldn't get pregnant if they did it for the first time or if they had sex under water."

That's not exactly teaching abstinence, but that's more or less beside the point.

"You agreed with a someone who commented here that Sex education is wrong and only abstinence should be taught."

I probably should have pointed out that I agreed with what she said about abstinence preventing abortion. I mean, regardless if people fail at it, abstinence, by it's definition, is a 100% success rate in not getting pregnant. I mean, you can't have children if you don't have sex.

Sex Ed has become such a part of the school curriculum that I wouldn't be able to remove it if I wanted to (assuming I had the power to do so). I just personally feel that sex ed should be taught at home by the parents.
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Kell0x Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010  Student General Artist
That's not exactly teaching abstinence, but that's more or less beside the point.

Dude you didn't get my point people didn't listen to abstinence and they still don't they believe their teenage friends and boyfriends.

I probably should have pointed out that I agreed with what she said about abstinence preventing abortion. I mean, regardless if people fail at it, abstinence, by it's definition, is a 100% success rate in not getting pregnant. I mean, you can't have children if you don't have sex.

dude again in paper it looks great but in reality it doesn't most states in your country that teach abstinence have a high rate of sexuality actively and teenage pregnancies, look it up. AND in states where they each sex education it shows a decline in unwanted pregnancies std's and high sexual activity. Tell me why would you support a program that has proving to do the quite opposite from its goal? not only that many abstinence programs teach the wrong things such as that oral sex doesn't invole high risk of an std not only is that stupid its dangerous!


I just personally feel that sex ed should be taught at home by the parents.

While I agree with this there is to many problems
1 : not everyone has parents or parents and caretakers that is willing to help them with this.
2: I am afraid many religious parents will teach their children they learn everything in their wedding night and thats about it.
I have nothing against people who support abstince because it works for them I just don't feel comfortable how people could support a program that has proven not to work at all and not to mention the fact that not everyone wants to get married.
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MetalShadowOverlord Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010
"dude again in paper it looks great but in reality it doesn't"

I know that. It's human nature. :shrug: It's like telling people not to sin. (Assuming you're Christian)
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Kell0x Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010  Student General Artist
Yeah I know I don't believe in Sins but things like abstinence is also more of a religious life style. Personally I don't want my children to be taught they go to hell if they have sex before marriage or that a piece of paper and a ring is an okay-card to have sex. I want that to be taught how dangerous sexual activity can be and how your life is effected if you have a child at a young age.
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MetalShadowOverlord Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010
Um, no one said they'd go to hell for having sex before marriage. o-o; Just because something is wrong doesn't mean you automatically go to Hell for it. You don't get executed for stealing a cookie from the kitchen.
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lady-warrior Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2010
the sign on the left is wrong. ABSTINENCE prevent abortion.
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LoboSabio Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2010
Yes, and a condom could do a much better job of it.
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staple-salad Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010
Technically yes, but you can't reasonably expect everyone to be abstinent. Teaching sex ed is just being extra sure to prevent abortion, so that people who don't abstain for whatever reason don't get pregnant either.

Except rape victims, but there's not much you can do to prevent unwanted pregnancies from that, unfortunately.
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Kell0x Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010  Student General Artist
Not to be a bitch or anything but if you look up statistics in places where they teach ABSTINENCE there are more unwanted teenage pregnancies in places where they do teach sex education.

Just something for you to think about,
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Biog33k Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010
My high school is proof!
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lady-warrior Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010
If you don't have sex you won't have the problem. plain and simple, love.
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Kell0x Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010  Student General Artist
Hon look up the facts, states and schools that taught abstinence have showed no decline in unwanted pregnancies or having no sexual activity before marriage.

Schools that have sex education did taught that. Plus not everyone wants to get married or have sex once they get married love not everyone shares the same ideas as you do. :)
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lady-warrior Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010
well hon, not every shares or is taught the same mroals as I was either.
maybe People should stop encouraging people to do it with everyone like a pack of rabbits and teach them the value of waiting. I'd rather do it with the person I'm going to marry than do it with soemone I don't care about.
Sex should be the last step in showing love, dear.
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WeluDixon Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010   General Artist
I was taught sex education in a Catholic school and it certainly wasn't encouraged "to do it with everyone like a pack of rabbits" nor the other extreme of, "Abstinence is the only way! Only have sex in marriage for the sake of pro-creation!"
They were realistic. They taught how to use various forms of birth control and protection, to wait until you're ready, to do it with someone you really care about who reciprocates the feelings and basically to not be a dumbass with sex.
In religion class I was taught the morals. In sex education, I was taught the healthy way to have sex if I so chose to do so.

Also how can you say not getting married to someone equals not caring about them? I know you're talking about sex but does that mean before you want to marry your partner you're just apathetic towards them? I would say reaching that point within a committed relationship is a good indication of caring.
I can say right now I love my boyfriend but marriage isn't worth thinking about at the six month stage. We also trust each other and enjoy expressing our feelings verbally and physically. Does that mean I don't care about him or he doesn't care about me?
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lady-warrior Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010
I never said that.
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WeluDixon Featured By Owner Dec 20, 2010   General Artist
Which bit? Encouraged to do it like rabbits? Or not marrying equals not caring?

People should stop encouraging people to do it with everyone like a pack of rabbits

I'd rather do it with the person I'm going to marry than do it with soemone I don't care about.

You said both. Nice ignoring of answering to anything I said.
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Kell0x Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010  Student General Artist
Sex education is not encouraging people to have sex everywhere in fact in a lot of states in your country where they teach sex education the sexual activity between teenagers have declined and in European countries where they teach sex education have found low statics of unwanted pregnancies so yeah it somehow proven to get people to be less sexual active then abstinence ever had. Im not making this up you can look this up yourself.

Love its okay if abstinence works for you but it doesn't seem to work with 90 percent of all people in your country. Sex education isn't about screwing each other its about preventing unwanted pregnancies and std's love its about safety not only for now but also for once you get married. I also agree that sex is the las step down in showing love but not everyone agrees with you and me I personaly believe you don't need a ring or a piece of paper to proof how much you love each other thats just me.

I really advice you to learn more about sex education, it also teaches children about parenthood and what can HAPPEN if they get pregnant in a young age it seems to work and scare people of having sex when their to young :lol:
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lady-warrior Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010
I know plenty about sex, dear, and I also know I don't want it.
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Kell0x Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2010  Student General Artist
Oh love but you have no idea what sex education is really about nor do you seem to know how much abstinence programs have failed all over America. If you don't like sex that is alright for you, good for you and keep on going but it doesn't seem to work for most of the teenagers in the usa.
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I-Dream-of-Speed Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Well yes of course it does, but do you really expect people to not have sex?

I think it's better to teach people about sexual health. That way they are fully prepared and knowledgeable about precautions they can take to avoid pregnancy and the contraction of STD's. The desire to have sex is a basic instinct that not everyone chooses to repress. If they choose not to, they should know how to go about it safely, wouldn't you agree?

If someone chooses to abstinent that's fine, but they should still be educated about sex.
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lady-warrior Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2010
sex ed is fine but if they're ENCOURAGED to do it before they are married there lies the problem.
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I-Dream-of-Speed Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
Right, sex ed is only meant to inform people, it's not suggesting people should have sex, it's just important facts in case you'd like to. Naturally no one should be encouraged, but if they make the decision themselves they should know how to be responsible. :nod:
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anakalivas Featured By Owner Oct 7, 2010   General Artist
Right on!:nod:
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